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		<title>By: Is the Opposition Losing Patience With Aoun? &#171; Qifa Nabki</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is the Opposition Losing Patience With Aoun? &#171; Qifa Nabki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mas</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5313</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hala, I don&#039;t think that QN is arguing about where the FPM stands with regards to the issues that you brought up, but rather with the political maneuvers undertaken by the FPM and Aoun. 
I mean the opposition did loose the elections, so why the stubbornness in demanding so many key governmental posts? FPMers would respond that &quot;change&quot; has to start someplace, and the more ministerial posts they can get under their umbrella, the better chance they have at pursuing their reforms. But I don&#039;t believe that they would be able to achieve anything (be it true &quot;change and reform&quot; or just a shift of power and corruption) without being the majority in the government. Staying out of government, practicing a true and proper opposition, and prepping up for the next elections would be a better option in my opinion.

Hala, mike, or danny: if any of you has an undeniable conclusive proof of who is behind Fateh el Islam, please share it with us. We&#039;ld love to know about it.

@mike: What&#039;s so wrong with Achoura being held in Jounieh, or Palm Sunday (shaanineh) being held in the southern suburbs? Oh by the way, I&#039;m not Syrian, I&#039;m human, flesh and bones, you can reply to me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hala, I don&#8217;t think that QN is arguing about where the FPM stands with regards to the issues that you brought up, but rather with the political maneuvers undertaken by the FPM and Aoun.<br />
I mean the opposition did loose the elections, so why the stubbornness in demanding so many key governmental posts? FPMers would respond that &#8220;change&#8221; has to start someplace, and the more ministerial posts they can get under their umbrella, the better chance they have at pursuing their reforms. But I don&#8217;t believe that they would be able to achieve anything (be it true &#8220;change and reform&#8221; or just a shift of power and corruption) without being the majority in the government. Staying out of government, practicing a true and proper opposition, and prepping up for the next elections would be a better option in my opinion.</p>
<p>Hala, mike, or danny: if any of you has an undeniable conclusive proof of who is behind Fateh el Islam, please share it with us. We&#8217;ld love to know about it.</p>
<p>@mike: What&#8217;s so wrong with Achoura being held in Jounieh, or Palm Sunday (shaanineh) being held in the southern suburbs? Oh by the way, I&#8217;m not Syrian, I&#8217;m human, flesh and bones, you can reply to me!</p>
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		<title>By: babagannouj</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5312</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;and the atmosphere is (looks at Aoun)… damp&quot;

can&#039;t stop laughing. 
hehe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and the atmosphere is (looks at Aoun)… damp&#8221;</p>
<p>can&#8217;t stop laughing.<br />
hehe</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5311</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hala says:

&quot;...They’re the people who compel Saniora to import the mercenaries Fatah el Islam in 2007 to fabricate a civil war, that he just couldn’t get us, the Lebanese, to get into.&quot;

Wow. Really? Can you entertain us about Shaker el Absi and his trek to Lebanon and basing himself in Nahr el bared off course after taking over the &quot;existing&quot; palestian partisans??? Please enlighten us when Mr. Hassan Nassrallah declared Nahr El Bared as a RED LINE for the Lebanese army...
Finish your fiction movie about conspiracy theories and we will all watch it.

I&#039;ll go with Mutanabbi too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hala says:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;They’re the people who compel Saniora to import the mercenaries Fatah el Islam in 2007 to fabricate a civil war, that he just couldn’t get us, the Lebanese, to get into.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Really? Can you entertain us about Shaker el Absi and his trek to Lebanon and basing himself in Nahr el bared off course after taking over the &#8220;existing&#8221; palestian partisans??? Please enlighten us when Mr. Hassan Nassrallah declared Nahr El Bared as a RED LINE for the Lebanese army&#8230;<br />
Finish your fiction movie about conspiracy theories and we will all watch it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go with Mutanabbi too.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5310</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you (Hala) are saying that FPM is somehow similar to the American civil rights movement?  And of course Aoun is MLK incarnate.  I guess HN will be more like Elijah Muhammad in this case?  No more Christian Lebanese according to you (or blacks as in your analogy).
I see your point.  And that works well for Aoun&#039;s demagoguery especially when there are such Lebanese like you who enjoy the thought of convincing themselves and others of being dispossessed and off-loading their ills on convenient scapegoats – with your wide imagination about civil right movements you should easily see that as a modern version of a Karbala style self flagellation.  What&#039;s more convenient than portraying the Syrian creation of Fatah el-Islam as a tool in the hands of those who are &#039;seeking&#039; to dispossess the &#039;poor blacks&#039; of Lebanon?  
You know something?  You just proved to me that the Christians of Lebanon are not misguided by Aoun after all.  They are actually fools.  
I am not going to label you Christian because I know from what you said that you are such an ‘enlightened Hezbo’ fan seeking to spread ‘enlightenment’ throughout the region.  Who do you think you&#039;re fooling?  Fneish, Ezze-Din (Madof) or Qassim?  Are we going to witness the next Ahoura held in Jounieh soon?    

I&#039;d rather go with Mutanabbi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you (Hala) are saying that FPM is somehow similar to the American civil rights movement?  And of course Aoun is MLK incarnate.  I guess HN will be more like Elijah Muhammad in this case?  No more Christian Lebanese according to you (or blacks as in your analogy).<br />
I see your point.  And that works well for Aoun&#8217;s demagoguery especially when there are such Lebanese like you who enjoy the thought of convincing themselves and others of being dispossessed and off-loading their ills on convenient scapegoats – with your wide imagination about civil right movements you should easily see that as a modern version of a Karbala style self flagellation.  What&#8217;s more convenient than portraying the Syrian creation of Fatah el-Islam as a tool in the hands of those who are &#8216;seeking&#8217; to dispossess the &#8216;poor blacks&#8217; of Lebanon?<br />
You know something?  You just proved to me that the Christians of Lebanon are not misguided by Aoun after all.  They are actually fools.<br />
I am not going to label you Christian because I know from what you said that you are such an ‘enlightened Hezbo’ fan seeking to spread ‘enlightenment’ throughout the region.  Who do you think you&#8217;re fooling?  Fneish, Ezze-Din (Madof) or Qassim?  Are we going to witness the next Ahoura held in Jounieh soon?    </p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather go with Mutanabbi.</p>
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		<title>By: deensharp</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5309</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hala,

&quot;FPM is the Lebanese civil rights movement.&quot;

Tell that to the Palestinian population I think they may have a different opinion!

Why does the FPM insist that allowing Palestinians to live a decent life is Tawteen?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hala,</p>
<p>&#8220;FPM is the Lebanese civil rights movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tell that to the Palestinian population I think they may have a different opinion!</p>
<p>Why does the FPM insist that allowing Palestinians to live a decent life is Tawteen?</p>
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		<title>By: deensharp</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deensharp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike I think you are all too on topic! But really ...

I read this poem by Mutanabbi who sums up what I would try and say:

We make ready our swords and our spears
And the Fates destroy us without a fight.
We bury each other, and the heads of those who came first,
Are trampled by the feet of those who came late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike I think you are all too on topic! But really &#8230;</p>
<p>I read this poem by Mutanabbi who sums up what I would try and say:</p>
<p>We make ready our swords and our spears<br />
And the Fates destroy us without a fight.<br />
We bury each other, and the heads of those who came first,<br />
Are trampled by the feet of those who came late.</p>
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		<title>By: Hala</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[funny, but not true...

Mike, you wonder about the &quot;Christians of Lebanon:, have you heard of the Lebanese of Lebanon? They&#039;re those who consider sectarian labeling a form of racism. They&#039;re also those who mend the socio-economic and cultural gap that left rural Lebanese areas in shambles, where frustrated, the people formed militias like Hezbollah. They&#039;re the people who have Hezbollah sign an MOU that they will disarms, while Hariri-Saniora offer them a deal to keep their arms (what&#039;s better than an Ottoman-style sectarian staus quo for a corrupt oil republic?). They&#039;re the people who compel Saniora to import the mercenaries Fatah el Islam in 2007 to fabricate a civil war, that he just couldn&#039;t get us, the Lebanese, to get into. They&#039;re also the people not interested in middle-eastern style perpetual feuds with Syria or others, because only constructive thinking will lead to stability and progress. Don&#039;t say this to saudi puppets though, it&#039;s un-loyal to their most recent &quot;sultan&quot; of choice. That&#039;s right, they&#039;re a continuation, by the style with which they rule, of the ottoman times. You wouldn&#039;t recognize the Lebanese of Lebanon, the patriots represented by General Aoun, because you only recognize sectarian casts. That is the real glitch between opposition and M14. M14 can&#039;t be convinced to leave their comfy position in the cast system, to become equal to everyone else. You make me think of people of labeled Americans black and white before the civil rights movement of the 60&#039;s. FPM is the Lebanese civil rights movement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny, but not true&#8230;</p>
<p>Mike, you wonder about the &#8220;Christians of Lebanon:, have you heard of the Lebanese of Lebanon? They&#8217;re those who consider sectarian labeling a form of racism. They&#8217;re also those who mend the socio-economic and cultural gap that left rural Lebanese areas in shambles, where frustrated, the people formed militias like Hezbollah. They&#8217;re the people who have Hezbollah sign an MOU that they will disarms, while Hariri-Saniora offer them a deal to keep their arms (what&#8217;s better than an Ottoman-style sectarian staus quo for a corrupt oil republic?). They&#8217;re the people who compel Saniora to import the mercenaries Fatah el Islam in 2007 to fabricate a civil war, that he just couldn&#8217;t get us, the Lebanese, to get into. They&#8217;re also the people not interested in middle-eastern style perpetual feuds with Syria or others, because only constructive thinking will lead to stability and progress. Don&#8217;t say this to saudi puppets though, it&#8217;s un-loyal to their most recent &#8220;sultan&#8221; of choice. That&#8217;s right, they&#8217;re a continuation, by the style with which they rule, of the ottoman times. You wouldn&#8217;t recognize the Lebanese of Lebanon, the patriots represented by General Aoun, because you only recognize sectarian casts. That is the real glitch between opposition and M14. M14 can&#8217;t be convinced to leave their comfy position in the cast system, to become equal to everyone else. You make me think of people of labeled Americans black and white before the civil rights movement of the 60&#8242;s. FPM is the Lebanese civil rights movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekios</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5303</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two words @ 04h30 AM before work : THANK YOU !! :lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words @ 04h30 AM before work : THANK YOU !! <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://qifanabki.com/2009/11/03/forbidden-desire/#comment-5302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a little off topic.  It is meant particularly for those Syrian commentators who think they know better.

The following link clearly shows that the Syrian regime continues to commit crimes against Lebanon and its people.

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&amp;21DFB2309EFFB79FC22576630059A2D0

I really wonder when will the Lebanese State declare Syria as an enemy State instead of so-called &#039;sister&#039;.  With such &#039;sisters&#039; as part of your &#039;family&#039; do you really need enemies?

Aoun must be extremely happy having acknowledhed the &#039;sisterhood&#039; of this diabolic neighbor.  Did he not acknowldge there are no more Lebanese prisoners in Syria&#039;s jails in return for a free tour of the Syrian wasteland?  Imad Moustafa would certainly be proud of him - not to mention Hizb and the misguided among his so-called Christian followers.  I never thought the Christians of Lebanon could be so easily deceived  by such empty-headed demagogues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little off topic.  It is meant particularly for those Syrian commentators who think they know better.</p>
<p>The following link clearly shows that the Syrian regime continues to commit crimes against Lebanon and its people.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&#038;21DFB2309EFFB79FC22576630059A2D0" rel="nofollow">http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&#038;21DFB2309EFFB79FC22576630059A2D0</a></p>
<p>I really wonder when will the Lebanese State declare Syria as an enemy State instead of so-called &#8216;sister&#8217;.  With such &#8216;sisters&#8217; as part of your &#8216;family&#8217; do you really need enemies?</p>
<p>Aoun must be extremely happy having acknowledhed the &#8216;sisterhood&#8217; of this diabolic neighbor.  Did he not acknowldge there are no more Lebanese prisoners in Syria&#8217;s jails in return for a free tour of the Syrian wasteland?  Imad Moustafa would certainly be proud of him &#8211; not to mention Hizb and the misguided among his so-called Christian followers.  I never thought the Christians of Lebanon could be so easily deceived  by such empty-headed demagogues.</p>
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